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[Hulk]

I was up in Denver last week sitting on I-25 ion traffic and looked down to see this...............


Wife says how did you get that many miles you never drive it?

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by inagain

ok all you car restorators...I recently posted my Nova for sale on craigslist. I had a title so I thought everything was good. Well I had a father and son show up and upon examining the firewall we noticed that the vin on the windshield and the two on the firewall don't match. Of course that killed the sale right there. So my question now is WTF do I do?
Yes I know it's not a Camaro question but I know several of you guys restore cars,especially you Pumpkin, so can you or anyone else help?

Where did you look on the firewall? Are you referring to the stampings on the cowl and by the heater, because the numbers on the cowltag do not count.

Rob

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by Rat

FB my friend. You should come up to Sturgis and hang with the club!

[2SS45th]

Just saw your car at RMCR Rob, looks good

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by 2SS45th

Just saw your car at RMCR Rob, looks good

Thanks.
Hope the boys are finishing it up. Cuttin it close.

[Mike@RMCR]

Originally Posted by AquaRSSS

Thanks.
Hope the boys are finishing it up. Cuttin it close.

We had to overnight a part. Going back together now.

[Mike@RMCR]

Originally Posted by 2SS45th

Just saw your car at RMCR Rob, looks good

Great meeting you today. Let us know if we can help more.

Mike

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by Mike@RMCR

We had to overnight a part. Going back together now.

Not again....friggin Camaro. :-) I'll be chuggin away on my trailer tonite anyways. More welding and painting to do.

[inagain]

Originally Posted by AquaRSSS

Where did you look on the firewall? Are you referring to the stampings on the cowl and by the heater, because the numbers on the cowltag do not count.

Rob

Yes sir, those are the 2 and the data plate # didn't match either.

[pumpkinrancho]

Originally Posted by inagain

Yes sir, those are the 2 and the data plate # didn't match either.

As long as the one in the window and the title match thats all that matters. As Rob said the cowl tag and stampings dont count. Those are body numbers and engine numbers. What year is your NOVA. As always I am looking for more cars.

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by inagain

Yes sir, those are the 2 and the data plate # didn't match either.

hmmm...the cowl and heater stampings' digits should line up with the last digits (sequence number) of the VIN number, so if the heater and cowl stampings match each other, but the VIN tag is completely different, then it sounds like it's been re-bodied. Might have to take off the dash and see how the VIN tag is riveted on. Should be 6 sided rosette rivets, not hardware store rivets.

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by pumpkinrancho

As long as the one in the window and the title match thats all that matters. As Rob said the cowl tag and stampings dont count. Those are body numbers and engine numbers. What year is your NOVA. As always I am looking for more cars.

I just said the cowl tag numbers won't match because they have no direct correlation to the VIN. The cowl tag is just used to identify the car's options and it provides the sequence number when it was built at the plant, ( and with that number and a bit of research you can validate to see if the VIN number of a car is in a valid range that corresponds to the factory sequences ...but that's only worth the effort for high-end or rare cars). The stampings still count, as it pertains to numbers-matching vehicles and to see if a car's been re-bodied. Mopars do the same thing on the radiator support and cowl. It's a lot easier to swap VIN's than re-weld body stamping numbers....but the FBI frowns upon that. Just ask the currently jailed owners of Unique Performance.

[pumpkinrancho]

Its kinda tough to re-vin a Nova. Not impossible thought. That part of the dash is welded in.

[pumpkinrancho]

I just said the cowl tag numbers won't match because they have no direct correlation to the VIN. The cowl tag is just used to identify the car's options and it provides the sequence number when it was built at the plant, ( and with that number and a bit of research you can validate to see if the VIN number of a car is in a valid range that corresponds to the factory sequences ...but that's only worth the effort for high-end or rare cars). The stampings still count, as it pertains to numbers-matching vehicles and to see if a car's been re-bodied. Mopars do the same thing on the radiator support and cowl. It's a lot easier to swap VIN's than re-weld body stamping numbers....but the FBI frowns upon that. Just ask the currently jailed owners of Unique Performance. I completely agree with the bold part. If you are talking about hidden vins, they absolutely need to match. Not sure if stampings tom is talking about are vins. Not sure where they hide it on a Nova, however depending on age it wont be in very many places.