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Old 07-14-2009, 05:00 PM   #141
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What doesn't make sense is that he confirms a CTS-v coupe, which is what the Z28 would have been pretty close to. Yet dampens the idea of the Z28. Why build one and not the other? There is an outcry for a Z28, a CTS-v coupe on the other hand is not being begged for.
Where besides here is there an outcry for the Z28, and isn't it safe to assume Caddy fans are crying out for the V coupe? It is far easier to sell a really big buck high performance coupe with a Cadillac crest than a Chevrolet bowtie.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:25 PM   #142
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What doesn't make sense is that he confirms a CTS-v coupe, which is what the Z28 would have been pretty close to. Yet dampens the idea of the Z28. Why build one and not the other? There is an outcry for a Z28, a CTS-v coupe on the other hand is not being begged for.
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Where besides here is there an outcry for the Z28, and isn't it safe to assume Caddy fans are crying out for the V coupe? It is far easier to sell a really big buck high performance coupe with a Cadillac crest than a Chevrolet bowtie.
I can see both of these points. But it sounds like Z28 is already ready-to-go; which is why I'm with Super'. On the same token, it sounded like there is already an outcry for the V.

Can't we just have both?
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:48 PM   #143
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Where besides here is there an outcry for the Z28, and isn't it safe to assume Caddy fans are crying out for the V coupe? It is far easier to sell a really big buck high performance coupe with a Cadillac crest than a Chevrolet bowtie.
Your right I'm sure all 20 of them are dying for one. The Z28 demand would easily trump the CTC-V. Look at how hot the Camaro is without Z28.
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The V Coupe is ready to go too.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:15 PM   #145
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CTS-V Coupe has been in development for a while now. And judging by some spy pics, it's just about done.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:53 PM   #146
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What doesn't make sense is that he confirms a CTS-v coupe, which is what the Z28 would have been pretty close to. Yet dampens the idea of the Z28. Why build one and not the other? There is an outcry for a Z28, a CTS-v coupe on the other hand is not being begged for.
I think it was just the timing. The CTS made it under the wire into final production approval just before they started slashing programs because of the budget crisis. The Z28 was a few months too late and now it has to be resurrected in order to live.

And no, they're not going to switch the name of the car with the SS if it is approved. You guys really come up with some wild theories.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:57 PM   #147
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I think it was just the timing. The CTS made it under the wire into final production approval just before they started slashing programs because of the budget crisis. The Z28 was a few months too late and now it has to be resurrected in order to live.

And no, they're not going to switch the name of the car with the SS if it is approved. You guys really come up with some wild theories.
Your right the CTS coupe was approved in the nick of time just like Camaro. The V version and the Z28 should both be a different story. I would just think that if one were to be dropped the CTC-V would go before the Z28 would.
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:03 PM   #148
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Your right the CTS coupe was approved in the nick of time just like Camaro. The V version and the Z28 should both be a different story. I would just think that if one were to be dropped the CTC-V would go before the Z28 would.
You would think...But Cadillac is a brand aching for more good cars...Chevy is busting at the seams...although...hasn't it been established upon that the Z28 wasn't cancelled or dropped?
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:29 PM   #149
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If GM wants to build a Camaro with a TT 4cyl they should, just not in a Z/28. As I said before, do not deface the name like GM did the SS. If the Z/28 should sell for 45k-50k, there would definitly be a market for it. The buyers that are in the market to buy a Z/28 do not care about the price tag.
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:47 PM   #150
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Your right I'm sure all 20 of them are dying for one. The Z28 demand would easily trump the CTC-V. Look at how hot the Camaro is without Z28.
This could be part of the problem.
But...Why not keep it HOT by adding to the fire!

If anything it's great for marketing, and it would not have to sell huge numbers since most the R & D is paid for by the bread and butter Camaro's.
Again, use it for the marketing and sell a few, ie ZR1 this way everybody wins(right?).
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This is the typical overreaction that will keep heritage cars like this one from progressing into the future: It's dangerous to get bogged down in tradition. There's nothing wrong with a 4 cylinder engine so long as it performs well. (note the bold and underline, because I mean it --- if it sucks, then it sucks). Hell, I'll bet if nobody told you before you drove it...you just might have confused the V6 Camaro for a low-end V8....just maybe.
know thy person you speak about before assuming..asumption is the mother of all phuckers. im the son of a man who can listen to a car driving down the street 100 yards away and tell me whats wrong with the car. They did make a 4 cyl camaro..it was first called a Cavalier..then it was called a Colbalt..anyway camaros have the stigma of being V8s and V6s only because that is what they are made for.and why people buy them.if they wanted a four cyl then theyd buy a smaller car with a 4 cyl.that way the car will actually go..thats why the build big cars for v8s. we hold our cars to heart. and we expect certain things out of our cars. for people that accept change thats fine. i love change. but certain changes destroy. its people that want to make smaller engines for bad ass cars for people like you who want the looks of a nice car with a pissy engine that destroyed the Nove..One of the greatest car ever made. Look at the 80s model when they made it a 4 banger for families..wheres the new novas again???
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On top of proving my point, I must point out that you say this:

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its people that want to make smaller engines for bad ass cars for people like you who want the looks of a nice car with a pissy engine...
...right after talking about assumptions. Nice.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:48 PM   #153
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The real problem is people look at the current Camaro and go OMG a 4-cylinder oh noes!!!!
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That is because a 4cyl does not belong in a Camaro.
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