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Old 05-19-2011, 08:53 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Thinking off doing muffler delete. Thoughts

With everything coming together with my headers and such and tune with ghost cam, I am wanting to achieve a louder idle and for it just to be a bit louder overall. I have 40 series flowmaster and resonator delete. When I put my headers on I will be doing my resonated x pipe as well. Any thoughts? Final set up will be Long tubes, high flow cats, resonted x pipe, resonator delete, muffler delete. I DO NOT want it to be super raspy either. That is why I am putting on my xpipe.

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Old 05-19-2011, 08:55 AM   #2
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It will be raspy if you do a muffler delete. I would do exactly what you are doing except leaving the flows. Good choice on everything but leave the flows
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:06 AM   #3
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It will be raspy if you do a muffler delete. I would do exactly what you are doing except leaving the flows. Good choice on everything but leave the flows
Thanks. It is sad the the long tubes will add to the raspyness. At least that it was I have read. I was just hoping the resonated xpipe would fix it. Trying to think of what is louder than a chambered flowmaster. Maybe some glasspacks?
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:22 AM   #4
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Thanks. It is sad the the long tubes will add to the raspyness. At least that it was I have read. I was just hoping the resonated xpipe would fix it. Trying to think of what is louder than a chambered flowmaster. Maybe some glasspacks?
LTs or the hi flows don't add raspiness to the setup. The addition of an x-pipe and/or removing the resonators will do it. I solved that by adding the MRT mufflers.

There's a guy on here, I think BaylorAirForce, who put a resonated x-pipe on his setup and it helped the rasp a lot. There's examples of the sound clip in the exhaust samples sticky.

As for my setup, it used to be very raspy in the first mile or 5 mins I drove, once the pipes warmed up and the carbon built up it was deep as hell. The raspyness has actually lowered after 1 year of driving with them on, chalk that up to the carbon build up.

BTW.......I have said this before.....unless you are driving a straight 6, any exhaust modification will to a v6 will increase the rasp. It's the nature of the beast. You can manage it, but brand new mods will have rasp until they get good usage and they will be reduced but not completely gone.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:38 AM   #5
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If you put glass packs on ANYTHING I will be forced to make fun of you. Can't believe that even crossed your mind LOL
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:12 AM   #6
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I totally understand where you are coming from, but I think you maybe ought to try something like the MRT v1, which advertises an aggressive idle but will still have a refined tone without much rasp...

The flowmasters seem like they idle down to just as quiet as stock. They sound great when you get on the gas under load, but at idle they sound rather quiet.

Is this because the muffler chamber is larger that the idle is so quiet? The mrt v1 is actually a pair of resonators that are fashioned into an axleback kit, they are only a little larger than straight pipes would be...
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:17 AM   #7
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If you put glass packs on ANYTHING I will be forced to make fun of you. Can't believe that even crossed your mind LOL
Yes i know...just thinking out side the box. Did you know our camaros come with glasspacks?? The resonators are pretty much the same thing as a glasspack
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:44 PM   #8
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I have done the mufler delete and cold air intake. She is pretty damn loud for around town. Once out onto the hwy it never bothers me. Cold start-ups can be heard inside the neighbors house two doors down. I have been contemplating short glass packs behind the rear axle for some time now. I have been told that the closer to the tips the less rappy glass pack sound you get. I found some aluminized glass packs somewhere that were only 12 or 14 inchs long and cheap(Heartthrob maybe). Seem like the perfect fit just gotta try it.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:01 PM   #9
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I have a muffler delete and an X-Pipe and I'm happy with it. Don't exepect your HP numbers to go up, but if your looking for sound then the LT's will help for sure.
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I am of a different opinion than some of the other comments left here. I think LTs + high flow cat + magnaflow resonated X could possibly work just fine. There are members here with videos of just the resonated X with no mufflers out back and they don't sound bad at all. Now, I'd never go LTs + straight pipe all the way back, but with the resonated X I think you should give that a try and get back with us on the results.

If you end up not liking it, then try adding the flows back into the mix...and lucky for you, my sticky thread has a setup EXACTLY like that (BBK LTs + resonated X + flowmasters) and I think it sounds sweet with nice rumble. Give it a listen.

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I have a muffler delete and an X-Pipe and I'm happy with it. Don't exepect your HP numbers to go up, but if your looking for sound then the LT's will help for sure.
Hope you didn't mean that LTs will not add much HP, because they most certainly will add a nice amount of power. But if you was just referring to the X pipe + muffler delete, then yeah, probably not too much power gained there.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:41 PM   #11
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I really want to try the muffler delete. I don't really want to cut them off losing tips then having to pay for piping and welds and such to get the tips back in the outlets...or pay to have the mufflers welded back on lol...how much do you guys think it would be to have piping to replace the mufflers and tips and everything welded?
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:59 PM   #12
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So what is the verdict? My exhaust now is super raspy if pipes are not warmed up. And even after 3-5k rpms can be raspy. So adding long tubes, high flow cats, and a resonated xpipe(have resonator delete)...will muffler delete make it more raspy? I'm looking for louder and deeper.
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:12 PM   #13
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I think any muffler delete will equal rasp.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:08 AM   #14
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One of the guys posted a video up on his V6 after installing a DT Muffler Delete Kit on that particular thread in the marketplace.

Perhaps that video might help ya a little.

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