Bleeding brakes for line lock

[mwt18]

Originally Posted by Eric Baker

I have a question and searching turned up nothing.

I will be installing my SJM line lock soon, and was wondering, since you have to disconnect the line before the ABS module, is there a special bleeding procedure? Is a scan tool needed to get all the air out? I'm surprised nobody has asked this yet, at least not that I can find.

I installed a TCI line lock on my car a couple of weeks back. The TCI solenoid is plumbed in directly after the master cylinder. I bled the front brakes without the scan tool and everything seems fine. I'm no expert, but I don't think the scan tool is needed..

[Fishdadddy]

Originally Posted by mwt18

I installed a TCI line lock on my car a couple of weeks back. The TCI solenoid is plumbed in directly after the master cylinder. I bled the front brakes without the scan tool and everything seems fine. I'm no expert, but I don't think the scan tool is needed..

How are you liking the TCI line lock? How was the install? Curious about your switch setup? Any pictures you can post?

[JusticePete]

I am anal about three things on my cars. Brakes, suspension and tires. My life depends on them. I run only SRF in my cars and that means we bleed the abs module to flush the fluid for fluid compatibility. Every time we go to the track, we do a full bleed with a scan tool. Some would say this is over kill. I say it is doing the job right. As discussed in this thread there are methods around a full scan tool bleed. That doesn't change my opinion that the best and safest method is a full bleed with a scan tool. Compared to my life, a scan tool bleed is cheap insurance.

[mwt18]

Originally Posted by Fishdadddy

How are you liking the TCI line lock? How was the install? Curious about your switch setup? Any pictures you can post?

I'm pretty pleased with the TCI kit overall. It does take some patience to get it installed correctly. The fittings have to be really TIGHT or they will leak. There is a fine line between getting the brass fittings tight enough and stripping the threads on them..

What would you like to see pics of? Have you seen these?

[mikepage0007]

my sjm works perfect and no probs hooking up, wired to cruise control, will post some pics up this weeknd

[dragon22]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I am anal about three things on my cars. Brakes, suspension and tires. My life depends on them. I run only SRF in my cars and that means we bleed the abs module to flush the fluid for fluid compatibility. Every time we go to the track, we do a full bleed with a scan tool. Some would say this is over kill. I say it is doing the job right. As discussed in this thread there are methods around a full scan tool bleed. That doesn't change my opinion that the best and safest method is a full bleed with a scan tool. Compared to my life, a scan tool bleed is cheap insurance.

[camaro4mybday]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I am anal about three things on my cars. Brakes, suspension and tires. My life depends on them. I run only SRF in my cars and that means we bleed the abs module to flush the fluid for fluid compatibility. Every time we go to the track, we do a full bleed with a scan tool. Some would say this is over kill. I say it is doing the job right. As discussed in this thread there are methods around a full scan tool bleed. That doesn't change my opinion that the best and safest method is a full bleed with a scan tool. Compared to my life, a scan tool bleed is cheap insurance.

do it right or dont do it at all, if you get 95% of the air out of the system with out using the proper tools then good for you, im glad im not driving your car cause that pocket will get in to something you dont want it to, ive seen it happen and its not fun. the scan tool can be a pain in the a** sometimes but it works its the way you need to do it. you can check your local tool rentals they might rent them, certain chain stores also might rent them. there are also laptop based programs that are much cheaper, i use the tech2 and a snapon modis and both are $$$$ but for that there are cheaper options a good google search should show you alot

[dragon22]

Originally Posted by camaro4mybday

do it right or dont do it at all, if you get 95% of the air out of the system with out using the proper tools then good for you, im glad im not driving your car cause that pocket will get in to something you dont want it to, ive seen it happen and its not fun. the scan tool can be a pain in the a** sometimes but it works its the way you need to do it. you can check your local tool rentals they might rent them, certain chain stores also might rent them. there are also laptop based programs that are much cheaper, i use the tech2 and a snapon modis and both are $$$$ but for that there are cheaper options a good google search should show you alot

Precisely! If there is any chance of something screwing up...it probably will. Why take chances with safety items?

[Fishdadddy]

So are you guys saying this has to be done to bleed the brakes on this car no matter what? Or only if you open the lines before the ABS block?

[dragon22]

As others have said...do it right. There is always a possibility for something to go wrong. Take it in and have a full bleed done with a scan tool. Money well spent.

[camaro4mybday]

if you open the lines after the block you can bleed them conventionally and they will work fine. the biggest problem is between the master and the abs block, if the fluid was to totally empty or servicing a the abs pump or master cyl you need to use a scan tool to get it cleared out

[mwt18]

What are the symptoms of air in the ABS? What's the worst that can happen if air is in there? Is this something that will manifest immediately or later at some random time?

[camaro4mybday]

a soft brake pedal, if you have air in the system you will feel the pedal go to the floor, if it stays up and when you let it sit it goes to the floor you have air

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by mwt18

What are the symptoms of air in the ABS? What's the worst that can happen if air is in there? Is this something that will manifest immediately or later at some random time?

The air would work out the abs pump when engaged and into the calipers. The end result would be a soft pedal.