Launch Control Tech

[radz28]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

That's a good plan. You're going to want to eliminate wheelhop at all costs. That's what kills suspension and trans components. Of course, we won't know how the stockers do until the car is released, but control arms will likely be a good mod to keep the rear together under hard launching conditions.

As much as I will stand behind and support GM, I just know I'll be one of those who will want to push what I have as far as I can. I'll have a limited budget so I'll be looking for the most effective mods'. Having said that, if I want to hook better, I'll want to control any sloppy-ness and deflection. While I doubt failure, I know they'll deflect a little (hey - NVH, right?...), and we have many sponsors who I can go to. Start at the foundation, sprinkle a little power, and I'll be happy as a pig in $h1t. I'm not smarter than anyone here - I just have a different plan than some

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

I will sign my name [on ice] that I will not NOT mode my future ZL1.

Can't say I blame you for a very smart move.
If most people like most people with Camaro's 550hp. ain't enough. I keep saying I'm done, and my performance installer just laugh at me and say, see you next month. I'm already asking about the high-ram intake from Holley, which they'll be testing in a few weeks on their shop SS.
I love my shop, they're always on top of things.

Originally Posted by radz28

As much as I will stand behind and support GM, I just know I'll be one of those who will want to push what I have as far as I can. I'll have a limited budget so I'll be looking for the most effective mods'. Having said that, if I want to hook better, I'll want to control any sloppy-ness and deflection. While I doubt failure, I know they'll deflect a little (hey - NVH, right?...), and we have many sponsors who I can go to. Start at the foundation, sprinkle a little power, and I'll be happy as a pig in $h1t. I'm not smarter than anyone here - I just have a different plan than some

I respect honest people to the maximum. It's better to say "who cars what the label is SS, ZL1, Z28 et al", "if it doesn't do what I want or can be improved, why not change it rather than be a loyal fool."
It's obvious that GM has a business plan, and most of the time that plan doesn't include what the consumer wants 100% because you can't make everybody happy. So, those that are loyal ZL1'ers will be satisfied with whatever GM gives em' and others will be happy, but not satisfied.
Believe me, when I got my SS after all they hype I was not satisfied at all, and started learning as much as I could to get my vehicle to do what I wanted it to do or should I say what I had "expected" it to do. Right on bro' for being straight up.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

Can't say I blame you for a very smart move.
If most people like most people with Camaro's 550hp. ain't enough. I keep saying I'm done, and my performance installer just laugh at me and say, see you next month. I'm already asking about the high-ram intake from Holley, which they'll be testing in a few weeks on their shop SS.
I love my shop, they're always on top of things.

Going off topic, but I'm bery interested:

I've seen that intake and it looks SWEET! Are you going NA, or are your still going to use your Procharger? Do you have a build journal? I DO like your build

[Scarrzz]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

Did you see the back picture. I really like the tail lights!

I did, and yes, I will admit to being unsarcastic when I said it almost looks cool. In brutal truth, I like everything except the pony emblem.

My current 4 wheel vehicle is an old Dodge Stealth. The lines are very similar. I will consider this car a worthy opponent.

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[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

I did, and yes, I will admit to being unsarcastic when I said it almost looks cool. In brutal truth, I like everything except the pony emblem.

My current 4 wheel vehicle is an old Dodge Stealth. The lines are very similar. I will consider this car a worthy opponent.

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I just deleted the pony & sent the back pic to a friend, and asked him what he thought this car was, and he said "Oh, that's the new Aston Martin..."

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

I'm not sure the LC and PTM will make it to ZL1. That's an additional $10,000 to the car. If they put it in as std, that car will run in $60K.

Where did you see that PTM is a $10,000 system?

Originally Posted by calbert1999

why not change it rather than be a loyal fool.

Hmf. I take exception with that remark....

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Where did you see that PTM is a $10,000 system?

When it was introduced on Corvette, I read it and the number kind of got stuck in my head. It wasn't just the PTM. It was PTM & LC!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

When it was introduced on Corvette, I read it and the number kind of got stuck in my head. It wasn't just the PTM. It was PTM & LC!

That doesn't make any sense, though. That's why I asked where you heard/read it. PTM is computer software, nothing more. It's essentially Stabilitrac for performance cars...new programming...it's impressive to say the least, but it's nothing crazy.

And when the system was introduced to the ZR1 in 2010, the price only went up $2900 with the model year change. (A fraction of which I think is due to the price, personally)

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by radz28

Going off topic, but I'm bery interested:

I've seen that intake and it looks SWEET! Are you going NA, or are your still going to use your Procharger? Do you have a build journal? I DO like your build

No. I've been collecting snippets of pics. here and there, but haven't taken the time to put together anything yet. Was just thinking about it earlier though.

As for Holley Intake, I'm very, very excited a custom job like that is $2-3k. What I'm hoping for; Once the verdict is out is to see if I can parallel align my HP's with TQ at the low end, and increase the TQ in the process to be more of a plateau than an increase. ie - between 2500 - 4500 RPM.

If I'm not mistaken it seems like this happens when stroking the engine.

In my case because I don't have a roots style SC, I'll be able to take advantage of the high ram intake, and if I decide to stroke the engine later, it will provide that much more value.

Thanks, for taking interest in my build, I'll get the log up soon. I promise.

For now I just had some asthetics done today nothing big but looks a lot better than before and it's original. Take a look.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Where did you see that PTM is a $10,000 system?


Hmf. I take exception with that remark....

Not directed at you or anyone in particular just saying if you don't like something or want to make it better take a chance and do it don't let the warranty et al stop you from doing it. Besides, warranties are for things that "break", in my mind it's not supposed to break and warranties are insurance, why do you need insurance if it's not supposed to break. Right? To me that says it all.

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

That doesn't make any sense, though. That's why I asked where you heard/read it. PTM is computer software, nothing more. It's essentially Stabilitrac for performance cars...new programming...it's impressive to say the least, but it's nothing crazy.

And when the system was introduced to the ZR1 in 2010, the price only went up $2900 with the model year change. (A fraction of which I think is due to the price, personally)

The article that I read was discussing the whole package regarding LC, PTM and how all the parts and MR suspension work as one complete solution and it said, it's an additional $10K to add these nice stuff to the car. I just used that number to signify how one feature can creep up to other things. If you want to dissect it to pennies, be my guest, but my point wasn't a "$$$" point per item. I'm just saying that these hi tech stuff gets expensive quick.

[Number 3]

First, I believe that MR is only a $1695 option on the Corvette. That's for the shocks. And I'm not sure there is a lot of extra hardware involved to get to LC that isn't already on the car. Not arguing the price, but here is what it says:

Performance Traction Management
is standard on ZR1. It manages acceleration out of turns via integration of the Magnetic Selective Ride Control, Traction Control and Active Handling systems.

Launch Control

is also standard with the short-throw manual gearbox. It modulates engine rpm to lay the power down more smoothly while providing consistent acceleration times on the test track.

And BTW, if the 2014 Mustang rumors are correct, then Ford better have big plans for small coupes in Europe and Australia. RHD is not a cheap proposition by any means and would need significant volume to jutify it.

Also, if they are going smaller yet, then it simply looks like they are going after a BMW 1 Series size car. I'm just not sure how you can go smaller in an already small car. Lighter sure ($$$$) but smaller? That's a tough one.

And Ford does have a nice, inexpensive IRS on the Focus so we'll see. I can imagine that is priority one, but it also adds cost and mass.

As I've mentioned, if this is the play for 2014 MY, then that means 2013 CY launch. So early chassis prototypes should be showing up pretty soon in "spy photos". Hey Dearborn members, any chopped up Mustangs with IRS running around? And for an all new underbody, they have to have more than Mustang on it. So it would have to replace the Falcon in Australia and provide a nice sedan as well as just the Mustang. They like sedans in Australia, but I don't think there has been a coupe market there.

Rumors and specualtion are FUN.

[Z_Rocks]

Wow guys... All I can Wow! GM is gonna put PTM into ZL1. This is going to be a serious car. GT500 is going to have hard time (for a while) to stand against ZL1.

[Ltespd]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

You do have a point. I knew about the Nissan issue (to put it mildly) but didn't realize that their repair had been so outrageously expensive.

However, GM didn't have a problem with this system when it was introduced, and I don't expect they will as they continue to use it. That feature would make up enough difference in the quarter mile to account for most of our extra weight as compared to the GT500, I believe.

There are many variables, but you must admit that using an already proven system that is state of the art and already in your arsenal makes a lot of sense.


BTW, in a quick check of the Nissan repairs price I came across this vid. It's pretty funny (unless you bought a Nissan GT-R.)

(Note: the vid has a couple of curse words, so don't click it if you don't want to. Our site is family friendly.)




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That video was frickin genius!!! LMAO "He was deep staging me at the light"

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

Wow guys... All I can Wow! GM is gonna put PTM into ZL1. This is going to be a serious car.

Was there every any doubt?